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  Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  Cognis,

  Some good points.

  I posted video about the man Karl Marx not about the communist state after all He was brilliant economist, and his ideas(not really read up on the man al that much) offer some sage advice IMO.
  
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  Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  Interesting quote from WC, JP.

  I'm not sure about what form of government is better. I do kind of agree with Plato but I can't find the quote I think it goes something like this: "Governments degrade into Democracy and that the best one could hope for in his day was a benevolent dictatorship".

  To me for Democracy to be good depends on the intelligence of the people in the democracy, because how can the people rule if they don't know anything about the thing they are voting on. Democratic elections in the USA play on the ignorance of the people, myself included and so it's a crap shoot. If intelligent people are making better decisions then that's good but how can one vote beneficially if they know nothing about the subject . I think Plato's government of choice was not a democracy but Aristocracy where the best qualified for ruling were in power.
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  Weekly Scripture Twist - aka the Watchtower Study

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  “more than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support.

  (matt.

  4:4) elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  O my fucking word:

  “Like the neighborly Samaritan in Jesus’ illustration, we want to help suffering people, including those who are not Witnesses. (Luke 10:33-37) The best way to do so is by sharing the good news with them. “It is important to make clear right away that we are Jehovah’s Witnesses and that our primary mission is to help them spiritually, not materially,” notes an elder who has helped many refugees. “Otherwise, some may associate with us only for personal advantage.”
  

  What a bunch of asshole wrote this it is so sick it is beyond words. Yes make it very clear to these people were not handing out material support of any kind strictly something to read to brainwash them into Watchtower corporation servitude or Watchtower code word "Good News of the kingdumb"
  
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  Do You Hope Donald Trump Makes Jestures Of Mending USA With Russia Relationships?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i think the problems the us and russia face are mainly ideological.

  the cold war these two countries have been in needs to be stopped and common sense needs to be applied i hope trump can push thing in the right direction and that he has good advisors.

  i'm all for these two major world military powers to put away their differences and find way to work together on common problems they face.. they need to cooperate with each other even in their cyber warfare.

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  I agree Trump may make more concessions due being new to the presidency I'm thinking everything could be more 50/50 near the end of his term, a good give and take situation that eventually works equally well for both parties should be the goal of these talks where reasonableness predominates stripped of who's going to be macho man.

  I'm tending towards this being a totally good thing that has rewards for both the US and Russia, as we enter the next decade with the hatchet buried as a history lesson about clashes between the two ideologies.

  I'm hopeful I think the time has come with technology ever increasing for these guys to show us the way into the 21st century.
  
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  Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  Hy,

  Well, then the historical record finds Marx to be fantastically wrong. Communist societies, instead of eliminating class-based conflict, ensconced it, and perpetuated it.

  I don't think he predicted it would happen as soon as you're suggesting but given that soon robots of all sorts will be taking over many jobs and lessen the need for workers things become fully automated and user freindly) so that vast majority of the working class are out of jobs. I think that will be the beginning of adopting a communistic way of life because capitalism just won't have the answers as technology increases exponentially.
  
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  Do You Hope Donald Trump Makes Jestures Of Mending USA With Russia Relationships?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i think the problems the us and russia face are mainly ideological.

  the cold war these two countries have been in needs to be stopped and common sense needs to be applied i hope trump can push thing in the right direction and that he has good advisors.

  i'm all for these two major world military powers to put away their differences and find way to work together on common problems they face.. they need to cooperate with each other even in their cyber warfare.

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  SBF, 3 minutes ago

  If he succeeds simply in not bringing about the end of civilisation I'll settle for that.

  I'm starting to like him, and could see why the Russians would try to turn the election in his favor without collusion with Trump before hand. Hilary's anti Russian stance would get in the way of bringing about better relations with Russia she too indoctrinated by government propaganda against such a thing happening.
  

  It would be great for two great ideologies about how to run a government could kind of Yin and Yang it with each other show off some accomplishments and learn from one another and not locked into mortal conflicts just by giving in a little to each others views of the world (walk a mile in my shoes type of understanding before you criticize and abuse type of action).

  Once you got the shoe on the other foot so to speak or with more understanding ending long time feuds with more understanding of the other side.

  Once I know enough about my enemy to defeat him is also the moment I truly love him or something like that, I forget how it goes.
  
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  Do You Hope Donald Trump Makes Jestures Of Mending USA With Russia Relationships?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i think the problems the us and russia face are mainly ideological.

  the cold war these two countries have been in needs to be stopped and common sense needs to be applied i hope trump can push thing in the right direction and that he has good advisors.

  i'm all for these two major world military powers to put away their differences and find way to work together on common problems they face.. they need to cooperate with each other even in their cyber warfare.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  Too funny!

  Vlad: "You are the most smartest man in the whole United States, no? You want stay in hotel? I send girls again you like. You are smartest of businessmen we make deal, yes?"

  Trump: "Only if you promise not to record it."

  Vlad: "Trust me Donald my friend."

  I can almost hear the Russian accent.
  

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  Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  The future of historical materialism:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_materialism
  

  Marxist beliefs about history[edit]

  "Society does not consist of individuals, but expresses the sum of interrelations, the relations within which these individuals stand."

  —  Karl Marx, Grundrisse, 1858[9]

  According to Marxist theorists[which?], history develops in accordance with the following observations:

  1. Social progress is driven by progress in the material, productive forces a society has at its disposal (technology, labor, capital goods, etc.)
  2. Humans are inevitably involved in production relations (roughly speaking, economic relationships or institutions), which constitute our most decisive social relations.
  3. Production relations progress, with a degree of inevitability, following and corresponding to the development of the productive forces.
  4. Relations of production help determine the degree and types of the development of the forces of production. For example, capitalism tends to increase the rate at which the forces develop and stresses the accumulation of capital.
  5. Both productive forces and production relations progress independently of mankind's strategic intentions or will.
  6. The superstructure—the cultural and institutional features of a society, its ideological materials—is ultimately an expression of the mode of production (which combines both the forces and relations of production) on which the society is founded.
  7. Every type of state is a powerful institution of the ruling class; the state is an instrument which one class uses to secure its rule and enforce its preferred production relations (and its exploitation) onto society.
  8. State power is usually only transferred from one class to another by social and political upheaval.
  9. When a given style of production relations no longer supports further progress in the productive forces, either further progress is strangled, or 'revolution' must occur.
  10. The actual historical process is not predetermined but depends on the class struggle, especially the organization and consciousness of the working class.

  Alienation and freedom[edit]

  Hunter-gatherer societies were structured so that the economic forces and the political forces were one and the same. The elements of force and relation operated together, harmoniously. In the feudal society, the political forces of the kings and nobility had their relations with the economic forces of the villages through serfdom. The serfs, although not free, were tied to both forces and, thus, not completely alienated. Capitalism, Marx argued, completely separates the economic and political forces, leaving them to have relations through a limiting government. He takes the state to be a sign of this separation—it exists to manage the massive conflicts of interest which arise between classes in all those societies based on property relations.
  

  The future[edit]

  In his analysis of the movement of history, Marx predicted the breakdown of capitalism, and the establishment in time of a communist society in which class-based human conflict would be overcome. The means of production would be held in the common ownership and used for the common good. In the mention of "human liberation" one should not neglect that, in the level of production, solely the working class is the most oppressed. But either way in the prediction of the future, one shall first know of the past (i.e. the establishment of capitalism and the transitional part of feudalism).

  
  
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  Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  Jal,
  

  I think the same is true in Capitalism only difference might be instead of the collective we could insert Capital(ist) concerns dominate human rights.
  
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  Karl Marx Genius Of The Modern World

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  he was all for getting rid of religions and their delusions for the betterment of mankind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mydmc1wio8.

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  Brokeback Watchtower

  Cof,

  I would expect since you're British that you would have different back round then the us in the US toward Marxism. Please share some of your thoughts on what specifically you find troubling about it.